EC997 Dyno Tuning Rates

In general -
Custom Fuel Injection tuning ranges from:
 $275 to $375 for fuel tuning on simple FI systems,
$575 to $775 for fuel tuning on more complex FI systems and
$775 to $2000 for custom chips and complex FI systems

WHEELSMITH

We don't tune to some "push a button" fictitious AFR number - we tune for Best Power and use a high speed multi-gas gas Analyzer for the best power. engine smoothness at part throttle and mileage.

Michael  Jordan Racing used one until 2012 and Vesrah Racing used the same EC997 dyno as we use.

   

EC997 dyno test flat rate

4 stroke: $80 initial test - add $20 for 4 gas EGA info

fuel rates, fuel rate stagger, diagnose fuel rates, ignition timing, fuel stagger, relative combustion process temperature (optional). AMA level Tuning consult additional.
(EC997 dynos are not prone to tuning errors that dynojet and dynojet clones are known for). There are few people who have more varied 250 carb tuning experience than WSR, mundane to crazy, after AMA National trackside tuning for 10+ years.
2 stroke diagnostic with 4 or 5 gas EGA:    $100
6 hours (one day) of 2 stroke tuning:    $1000.
 


Had your bike "custom tuned to an AFR" already?
Downloaded what is supposed to be the "right" map for your exhaust?
Feel that it's still not "right"? Burbly at cruise? Black exhaust pipe? Poor mileage?
Those are all results of possible poor tuning. Engines don't want a simplistic "AFR" at all rpms, loads, throttle positions and engine temps. The most consistent method get them right is to use a dyno like the Realtime HP readout EC997 and a 4 or 5 gas EGA - Without this sort of dyno equipment, a tuner has to make an educated guess (and, objectively, there are a few dynojet owners who can deliver pretty good results using educated guessing)

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Tuning Device - Custom Tuning tune fuel tune
ign
tune acc pump qs notes cable and software reqs
Carburetor Tuning
"CV" type carb            
Carb Tuning 3 or 4 cylinder cv carb  775       installing, dyno and tuning - note: modified engines may required additional work and cost.  
Carb Tuning 2 cylinder  cv carb  475       installing, dyno and tuning
add $50 for KTM 950
 
Carb Tuning 1 cylinder cv carb  375       installing, dyno and tuning  
             
"Slide" type - Mikuni HSR, Keihin FCR, CRS, VM, etc.            
Carb Tuning 3 or 4 cylinder
(normal FCR inc jets and dyno work)
 775 to
1000
      installing, dyno  and tuning - note: modified engines may required additional work and cost.  
Carb Tuning 2 cylinder
(normal FCR inc jets and dyno work)
 675 to 775       installing, dyno  and tuning - note: modified engines may require additional work and cost.  
Carb Tuning 1 cylinder
(normal FCR inc jets and dyno work)
 425       We can use the "secret" emulsion tube for the oem off road FCR's. We've done many. many FCR's for trail, SM and MX use and have the patent for the HDJ emulsion tube.
installing and tuning
 
Lectron T&M       customer supplies required tuning parts.
billed at Time and Material
 
S&S Super E and G and similar on Harley Davidson, etc. T&M       customer supplies required tuning parts.
billed at Time and Material

The S&S supplied Tuning Instructions are only a very rough, general idea of what circuit affects which part of the throttle and rpm band on a relatively stock engine. It's usual to have to deviate from the instructions to get best mileage, power and response.
 
Yamaha tz250, Honda rs250, Aprilia rs250, RD 350/400 and other 2 strokes            
one diagnostic test with 4 gas EGA 100          
one day, tune carbs, ign, swap pipes, etc. aprox. 6 hrs,
customer supply tuning labor.
1000       Customer makes changes. This is the same dyno that most every later AMA 250 national championship rider used. Dynojet Inertia dyno testing does not work optimally on race 2 strokes.
Note: This "6 hours" does not guarantee a perfectly tuned engine - it is for 6 hours of testing and tuning. For example, you can dial in the mains, main air jets, needles, nozzles, float heights, pilots and air/fuel screws and still be left with too rich of a slide (which are too varied and expensive to stock).
Modifying and dialing in slides can take 8 hours. Or you can get on the phone and in 15 minutes, just buy leaner cutaway slides (not really - it doesn't take 8 hours to dial in a two stroke twin's slides after you've done the lion's share of the work).
 
             
FUEL INJECTION TUNING
Add-on boxes tune fuel tune
ign
tune acc pump qs notes cable and software reqs
             
Teka 4 and SFI Tuning            
Teka 4 usb (add on box) 375       ind (2 cyl)  or paired (4 cyl) tuning add $100 nothing extra required
Teka SFI reprogram stock Suzuki ecu
(all high rpm bikes)
375       The Teka SFI reprograms the stock ecu - no permanently installed  parts are required nothing extra required
Teka SFI reprogram stock Suzuki ecu
 (M109 and <7000 rpm cruisers)
375       The Teka SFI reprograms the stock ecu - no permanently installed  parts are required nothing extra required
             
Power Commander (HIGH rpm bikes 8000+)            
Power Commander 2 575   na     we have cable and software
Power Commander 3 / 3R serial 475 100 for 3R na na   we have cable and software
Power Commander 3 or 5 usb 375 175 ign 25 acc pump 50qs ind (2 cyl)  add $175, or paired (4 cyl) fuel tuning add $225 we have cable and software
Power Commander 3 usb, fuel and ignition module 375 175 ign 25 acc pump 50qs ind (2 cyl)  add $175, or paired (4 cyl) fuel tuning add $225 we have cable and software
Power Commander 5 375 175   50qs ind (2 cyl)  add $175, or paired (4 cyl) fuel tuning add $225 we have cable and software
             
Power Commander (LOW rpm bikes <7000)            
Power Commander 2 fuel only 575         we have cable and software
Power Commander 3 and 5 375 100 25 acc pump 50qs   we have cable and software
Power Commander 3 and 5 fuel and ignition - Harley Davidson 375 HD 100 25 acc pump 50qs   we have cable and software
Power Commander 3 and 5 fuel and ignition 475 100 25 acc pump 50qs   we have cable and software
Power Vision 575 100 ign 25 acc pump 50qs add 100 for updating PV unit  
HD Power Commander 3 usb, fuel and ignition 375 100 for ignition mapping 25 acc pump  25qs   we have cable and software
             
Bazzaz 475 ign 175 if enabled na 50 ind or paired tuning not available from Bazzaz. we have cable and software
             
Replacement ECUs tune fuel tune
ign
tune acc pump qs notes cable and software reqs
             
Bazzaz ECU (actually it's EFI Technologies) 1750 ign inc na     your disc and cable required
             
EFI Technologies ecu, if runnable map installed 1500 ign inc     meaning that the installed map is runnable around a track your disc and cable required
EFI Technologies ecu, if starting essentially from scratch

~2500 ign inc     meaning that you can get it started, but essentially, we would be starting with unusable maps your disc and cable required
             
EMS Pro Suzuki Yoshimura ecu 600cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc and cable required
EMS Pro Suzuki Yoshimura ecu 1000cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc and cable required
             
HRC Honda ecu 600cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc required, we have cable
HRC Honda ecu 1000cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc required, we have cable
             
KRT Kawasaki ecu 600cc / 636cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc required, we have cable
KRT Kawasaki ecu 1000cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc required, we have cable
             
Magneti Marelli - Yamaha - Ducati
Recommended 775 base  ign extra     Experienced in Mag Mar systems tuning Recent Ducati and Yamaha R6 your disc and cable required
             
Microtec ecu - Ducati - MV
Recommended 775  ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done
Second map done at the same time: $325
Referred by Ducshop. Have tuned quite a few Microtec ecu's.
we have Microtec cable and 197 software but bring yours for backup.
Nemesis ecu - Ducati
Recommended 775  ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done
Second map done at the same time: $325
Have tuned many Nemesis ecu's.
we have Nemesis cable and software
             
Weber ecu
as quoted       Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc and cable required
Walbro ecu
  as quoted       Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc and cable required
             
YEC Yamaha ecu 600cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc required, we have cable
YEC Yamaha ecu 1000cc
Recommended 675 ign included     Both fuel and ignition are always done your disc required, we have cable
YEC Yamaha R7 stock tuning box
An interesting device -
Have tuned 1 in Colorado.
995 ign included     MUSY HAVE MANUAL!
Both fuel and ignition are always done
you supply tuning box and documentation
             
REFLASHING tune fuel tune
ign
tune acc pump qs notes cable and software reqs
             
S&S Pro Tuner II for HD
can have issues with map consistency. 02/2013
875 ign inc   na fuel, acc pump and ignition are always done  
             
HD Super Tuner   775 ign inc acc pump inc na fuel, acc pump and ignition are always done your box required
HD Race Tuner   775 ign inc acc pump inc na fuel, acc pump and ignition are always done your box required
Power Vision


pleasantly surprised, works well! Often needs a lot of software updates to use

475 100     + $100 for Power Vision downloads, updates and setup  

Microtec ecu - Ducati


Recommended - (has realtime tuning)
775 175  ign     Both fuel and ignition are always done
Second map done at the same time: $375
Referred by Ducshop. Have tuned quite a few Microtec ecu's.
we have Microtec cable and 197 software but bring yours for backup.

Microtec ecu -MV Augusta


Recommended - (has realtime tuning) 775 175  ign     Both fuel and ignition are always done
Second map done at the same time: $375
Referred by Ducshop. Have tuned quite a few Microtec ecu's.
we have Microtec cable and 197 software but bring yours for backup.

Tuneboy WIFI

w cust supplied code


Recommended method - (has realtime tuning)
Mitsubishi ecu
Diavel, MTS1200
775 ign 175      New Tuneboy WIFI is awesome for custom tuning. My Eddy Current dyno tuner's delight - it does realtime tuning to get the engine running perfectly. you need to supply the WIFI cable
Tuneboy - w cust supplied code
Aprilia, Benelli, Buell, KTM, MG, custom tuned
  775 ign 175       your password required, we have Aprilia and Triumph cable, If Benelli, you need to supply the cable 04/15/10.
Tuneboy - Triple Triumph  -
w cust supplied code

  675 ign 100       your password required, we have Tuneboy Triumph cable
TuneboyTwins - w cust supplied code
  575 ign 100       your password required

TuneECU - Triumph twins

Triumph, most all FI, but check on latest models for application

Recommended

Triumph twins
575 100     FI tuning a custom set of maps for TuneECU is less money than an add-on box + custom mapping.  

 we have Triumph cables,

TuneECU - many KTM - Triumph triples

Aprilia Caponord, Futura RST
KTM 990 / 1190 / 690 Duke / 690 SMC & Enduro / 690 Supermoto
Triumph triple, most all FI, but check on latest models for application

Recommended

KTM 990
Triumph triple
some Aprilia
675
for fuel maps
100
for ignition maps
    FI tuning a custom set of maps for TuneECU is less money than an add-on box + custom mapping.  

 we have KTM and Triumph cables, If Benelli or Aprilia, you need to supply the cable 04/15/10.
               
             
Chip Programming tune fuel tune
ign
tune acc pump qs notes cable and software reqs
             
Aprilia, BMW, Ducati. Moto Guzzi  Custom Chips - 1500 included     Both fuel and ignition are always done we have dedicated software system
           
             

All prices subject to change.

Special prices are time limited.

Usual Scheduling Scenarios:
Usual tuning time is 2-3 days for Teka 4's, Teka SFI's, Power Commanders. Priority Service is available as our scheduling permits. Add $100.
Factory type "race" ecu's will take 2-3 days as they are more complex. Priority Service can be tentatively planned, but, sometimes derailed by software issues.
Nemesis ecu and custom chips take about a week.
Other, rarer ecu's can take 1 to 2 weeks, to allow for weird software issues (as they do exist)

As our scheduling permits, it's often possible to drop a bike off on Friday and pick up Monday.
It usually OK to drop the bike off on your day off and pick up next week's day off without additional storage charges.

Other tuning devices and tuning systems -
We listed what we've done in the past. We've done some others and just don't remember - and done some that we don't want to do ever again. Ask or  Email Marc marc@factorypro.com if yours isn't listed.

As far as newer unlisted tuning systems and ecu's?
We've done a fair number of different race ecu's and have a good handle on how and what the software needs to generally do - so, starting with a new software won't usually be a totally different deal for us and additional charges should be relatively minor.

Thanks -

WSR


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